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 XP and levelling, ranks, all of that kind of thing
 
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 but
 
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 [@Okkervils](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/5261/), that would be awesome
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 i had a few more local peeps in here this morning helping me a bit with
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 7 minutes ago
 
 [@Big Bad Brat](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/23529/), diarrhea has ceased. no
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 [@Okkervils](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/5261/), see a doctor
 
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 7 minutes ago
 
 [@The Last Stand](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/26874/), it's not me lol
 
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 but in a game like CS:GO adding this kind of "meta-goal" stuff makes people
 mad at their teammates when they think they're not pulling their weight,
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 [@Big Bad Brat](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/23529/), ok
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 [@The Last Stand](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/26874/), i dunno
 
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 [@Okkervils](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/5261/), I meant as in, the shit
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 [@Visitor](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/17967/), yeah. That game seems to get
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 [@The Last Stand](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/26874/), you know what I mean
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 [@Dial M for Misgender](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/25918/), any game where
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 and to a lesser extent co-op games
 
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 [@Dial M for Misgender](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/25918/), whatever you say
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 lolcow of the making?
 
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 when you have a "meta-goal" that encourages players to play in an optimal
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 I didn't sleep a lot, could have used some more
 
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 [@The Last Stand](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/26874/), really you have no
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 [@Visitor](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/17967/), all you need is hats
 
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 5 minutes ago
 
 people get addicted to harvesting xp/rewards, etc in order to progress in a
 game. It's not until you set your aunt aside and remind her that her mobile
 monopoly game has no real bearing on her actual life that the veil is lifted.
 These people genuinely need telling and reminding that their silly fb games
 are a huge useless timesink and at best a distraction from their day to day.
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 looking at DSP tards is tiring
 
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 4 minutes ago
 
 [@Big Bad Brat](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/23529/), you should take a nap
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 hey at least this dox was fun but fuck my sleep schedule is ruined
 
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 [@Spl00gies](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/23299/), I'm talking more about
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 clearly those games are a massive fuckin' problem and anyone who plays them
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 [@Spl00gies](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/23299/), i abhor fb mobile games.
 social media is already addictive. candy crsh is the worst of them. you
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 just lost a bet
 
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 but it's not quite so obvious how putting XP and levelling stuff into a
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 it's SELF CARE
 
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 i'll do it but i'm super curious now
 
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 like penis fun
 
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 Surely you must be mistaken
 
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 or like "![wow](/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/phpbb/icon_doge_wow.gif) i got
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 think what you want [@Dial M for
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 I like a nice drag radial myself ![;\)](/styles/custom/emotes/svg/chris-
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